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		<title>By: James F. Burke, Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James F. Burke, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This piece is beyond the pale; but this author has the right to express her views.   

But when did marshaling  facts to support an opinion become irrelevant?  

Torture of any human being is unacceptable.  Ask the Pope.  

And yes, torture is unAmerican any time any place.  Read the 8th Amendment. 

Moreover, a Republican dominated Supreme Court, i.e., conservative,  has construed the U.S. Constitution to afford rights to terrorists at Gitmo; those who think the U.S. Constitution applies only to U.S. citizens are just plain wrong.  And those Supreme Court decisions are consistent with both the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.

What&#039;s going on in the history classes at Hoban?

Jim Burke &#039;67</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This piece is beyond the pale; but this author has the right to express her views.   </p>
<p>But when did marshaling  facts to support an opinion become irrelevant?  </p>
<p>Torture of any human being is unacceptable.  Ask the Pope.  </p>
<p>And yes, torture is unAmerican any time any place.  Read the 8th Amendment. </p>
<p>Moreover, a Republican dominated Supreme Court, i.e., conservative,  has construed the U.S. Constitution to afford rights to terrorists at Gitmo; those who think the U.S. Constitution applies only to U.S. citizens are just plain wrong.  And those Supreme Court decisions are consistent with both the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s going on in the history classes at Hoban?</p>
<p>Jim Burke &#8217;67</p>
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		<title>By: Agreed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agreed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with you Miss Bowser.  I appreciate your opinion and applaud your bravery to voice your opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you Miss Bowser.  I appreciate your opinion and applaud your bravery to voice your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: A Hoban alumna</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Hoban alumna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disappointed beyond words that a student at my alma mater feels the need to publish an opinion piece filled with so much hatred, and, perhaps more importantly, a lack of basic understanding regarding Constitutional principles. Those who defend the right of this columnist to speak, regardless of how abhorrent her views, are upholding the ideals upon which this country was founded. I find it terrifying that the next generation of American leaders first holds such views and secondly expresses them so poorly. While I cannot help but defend the author&#039;s right to speak, I can and will remember this the next time I receive a Hoban mailing asking for a donation. Clearly, the education I have been funding has been greatly devalued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disappointed beyond words that a student at my alma mater feels the need to publish an opinion piece filled with so much hatred, and, perhaps more importantly, a lack of basic understanding regarding Constitutional principles. Those who defend the right of this columnist to speak, regardless of how abhorrent her views, are upholding the ideals upon which this country was founded. I find it terrifying that the next generation of American leaders first holds such views and secondly expresses them so poorly. While I cannot help but defend the author&#8217;s right to speak, I can and will remember this the next time I receive a Hoban mailing asking for a donation. Clearly, the education I have been funding has been greatly devalued.</p>
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		<title>By: A Hoban parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Hoban parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case I did not drive my point home the first time, let me be very clear.  I am in NO WAY attacking the commentator!  On the contrary - I feel for her.  She is &quot;basking in the glow&quot; from all the buzz she created by exercising her right to free speech.  If an instructor does not step in and teach her the appropriate and productive way to commentate, her 15 minutes will be up.  

Have we all forgotten the Kanye West incident (the first one) after Hurricane Katrina where he stood on stage on live TV and said, &quot;President Bush hates all black people&quot;?!  He left Mike Myers standing there looking like a &quot;deer in headlights&quot;.  And the rest of America was shocked.  In an instant, Kanye lost all credibility when he chose that forum and those words all in the name of &quot;free speech&quot;. 

If you have a message you want to convey, then you&#039;d better pick the proper forum and language you use.  Making offensive statements about a &quot;sitting&quot; President who is working hard to get us through a national crisis probably isn&#039;t the best way to get your point across.  Maybe Kanye should have been on a boat down on the Bayou rescuing people off their roofs instead of standing on that stage personally attacking the President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case I did not drive my point home the first time, let me be very clear.  I am in NO WAY attacking the commentator!  On the contrary &#8211; I feel for her.  She is &#8220;basking in the glow&#8221; from all the buzz she created by exercising her right to free speech.  If an instructor does not step in and teach her the appropriate and productive way to commentate, her 15 minutes will be up.  </p>
<p>Have we all forgotten the Kanye West incident (the first one) after Hurricane Katrina where he stood on stage on live TV and said, &#8220;President Bush hates all black people&#8221;?!  He left Mike Myers standing there looking like a &#8220;deer in headlights&#8221;.  And the rest of America was shocked.  In an instant, Kanye lost all credibility when he chose that forum and those words all in the name of &#8220;free speech&#8221;. </p>
<p>If you have a message you want to convey, then you&#8217;d better pick the proper forum and language you use.  Making offensive statements about a &#8220;sitting&#8221; President who is working hard to get us through a national crisis probably isn&#8217;t the best way to get your point across.  Maybe Kanye should have been on a boat down on the Bayou rescuing people off their roofs instead of standing on that stage personally attacking the President.</p>
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		<title>By: A Hoban parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Hoban parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize much time has past, and there are far more critical topics to discuss than a &quot;Commentary&quot; wriiten by a 17-yr old high school student.  However, I just can&#039;t seem to &quot;shake off&quot; my utter disappointment  in those responsible for publishing this student&#039;s &quot;opinion&quot; of our President of the United States.  Where are the teachers or Editor-in-Chief of The Visor, a publication of Archbiship Hoban High School?  A Catholic high school that is supposed to follow the Mission of The Brothers of the Holy Cross.  A Mission that states:  &quot;We celebrate our diversity, value each person, and welcome one another with the hospitality of Christ&quot;.  Where are those who took on the responsibility of teaching our students respect through the writings of The Blessed Basil Moreau:  &quot;I have always been convinced that the first duty of any teacher is to produce Christians&quot;?  Where is Hoban&#039;s philosophy where:  &quot;There is an attitude of respect that draws out potential and encourages change and growth...We stand side by side with all people.&quot;  &quot;We will place education side by side with instruction, instruction transmits knowledge and skills while education of the heart fosters the values, attitudes, and behaviors which will use that knowledge and skills APPROPRIATELY and PRODUCTIVELY.&quot;  

I could go on and on, but I have probably already lost any readers left!  My purpose is to try to get anyone still reading to look at the big picture here.  In my &quot;opinion&quot;, this &quot;commentary&quot; from a 17-yr old struck a nerve with the reader&#039;s of The Visor because of its total lack of respect for the service of President Obama.  There is a fine line between &quot;free speech&quot; and &quot;character assassination&quot;.  Referring to our President as &quot;a hypocritical liar&quot;  crossed that line.  As did her reference to those who voted for him as fools.  I ask those who are supposed to be guiding these &quot;commentators&quot; , did you do your job?  Did you teach this young writer how to walk this thin line using &quot;appropriate and productive skills&quot;?  Did you teach her to write with the &quot;zeal and discipline&quot; befitting a student of Archbishop Hoban High School?  I think not.

As a result, she will suffer when or if she attempts to go on to write for a college publication.  She will be passed over by thousands of other students who were taught the art of being a true Commentator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize much time has past, and there are far more critical topics to discuss than a &#8220;Commentary&#8221; wriiten by a 17-yr old high school student.  However, I just can&#8217;t seem to &#8220;shake off&#8221; my utter disappointment  in those responsible for publishing this student&#8217;s &#8220;opinion&#8221; of our President of the United States.  Where are the teachers or Editor-in-Chief of The Visor, a publication of Archbiship Hoban High School?  A Catholic high school that is supposed to follow the Mission of The Brothers of the Holy Cross.  A Mission that states:  &#8220;We celebrate our diversity, value each person, and welcome one another with the hospitality of Christ&#8221;.  Where are those who took on the responsibility of teaching our students respect through the writings of The Blessed Basil Moreau:  &#8220;I have always been convinced that the first duty of any teacher is to produce Christians&#8221;?  Where is Hoban&#8217;s philosophy where:  &#8220;There is an attitude of respect that draws out potential and encourages change and growth&#8230;We stand side by side with all people.&#8221;  &#8220;We will place education side by side with instruction, instruction transmits knowledge and skills while education of the heart fosters the values, attitudes, and behaviors which will use that knowledge and skills APPROPRIATELY and PRODUCTIVELY.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I could go on and on, but I have probably already lost any readers left!  My purpose is to try to get anyone still reading to look at the big picture here.  In my &#8220;opinion&#8221;, this &#8220;commentary&#8221; from a 17-yr old struck a nerve with the reader&#8217;s of The Visor because of its total lack of respect for the service of President Obama.  There is a fine line between &#8220;free speech&#8221; and &#8220;character assassination&#8221;.  Referring to our President as &#8220;a hypocritical liar&#8221;  crossed that line.  As did her reference to those who voted for him as fools.  I ask those who are supposed to be guiding these &#8220;commentators&#8221; , did you do your job?  Did you teach this young writer how to walk this thin line using &#8220;appropriate and productive skills&#8221;?  Did you teach her to write with the &#8220;zeal and discipline&#8221; befitting a student of Archbishop Hoban High School?  I think not.</p>
<p>As a result, she will suffer when or if she attempts to go on to write for a college publication.  She will be passed over by thousands of other students who were taught the art of being a true Commentator.</p>
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		<title>By: Alumni '08</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alumni '08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Hoban graduate (and proud former Visor staffer!), I&#039;m deeply disturbed by the number of hateful comments directed against the author of this article. 

While I personally don&#039;t agree with her views (and was grateful to see my views expressed by two of my former teachers, Mrs. Bulgrin and Mr. Bryant), she was completely within her rights to express her opinion - and more than that, was extremely brave to publish these views in a public forum and attach her name to them. 

How pitiful that some people, even grown adults, can attack Ms. Bowser&#039;s opinions without publishing their own names. (How brave the Internet can make some people.) Good for her - a substantive article in the Visor that creates a discussion at Hoban (a real discussion, not just sports or entertainment). 

I can&#039;t agree with her views, but I&#039;m proud to see her article nonetheless. With that, I&#039;m going to protect my own anonymity, because some of the people commenting on this article are frankly frightening. 

-Alumnus of &#039;08</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Hoban graduate (and proud former Visor staffer!), I&#8217;m deeply disturbed by the number of hateful comments directed against the author of this article. </p>
<p>While I personally don&#8217;t agree with her views (and was grateful to see my views expressed by two of my former teachers, Mrs. Bulgrin and Mr. Bryant), she was completely within her rights to express her opinion &#8211; and more than that, was extremely brave to publish these views in a public forum and attach her name to them. </p>
<p>How pitiful that some people, even grown adults, can attack Ms. Bowser&#8217;s opinions without publishing their own names. (How brave the Internet can make some people.) Good for her &#8211; a substantive article in the Visor that creates a discussion at Hoban (a real discussion, not just sports or entertainment). </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t agree with her views, but I&#8217;m proud to see her article nonetheless. With that, I&#8217;m going to protect my own anonymity, because some of the people commenting on this article are frankly frightening. </p>
<p>-Alumnus of &#8217;08</p>
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		<title>By: Rae'Lyn Morgan-Pegues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rae'Lyn Morgan-Pegues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: James Moffitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Moffitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for bringing me back to this post Chris. I haven&#039;t commented in over a week and that was only because someone else responded to me before.

Unfortunately, I know I&#039;ve lost this fight, and I&#039;ve known that from the beginning and it still makes me sad. Granted, I realize and have admitted my emotions got the better of me a few times while posting here, but if you had read any of my posts you would know I sincerely wish her article had only been about Obama&#039;s failings. As an Obama supporter I am always interested to read about things he is falling short on so I continue to be informed and can make informed decisions while voting.  However, most of her article was a pro torture rant and I will not sit by, even though I knew coming in I was losing. Fighting against fear based decisions is not an easy task, but it was worth a shot.

As to your final point, thank you. I do not believe in anonymous posting while debating a contentious issue with peers I have a connection to (this excludes any parents that did not wish to involve their children who are attending Hoban.)  I&#039;m hoping to see more from the Visor in the future, and specifically from Nikki, which is more grounded in fact instead of fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing me back to this post Chris. I haven&#8217;t commented in over a week and that was only because someone else responded to me before.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I know I&#8217;ve lost this fight, and I&#8217;ve known that from the beginning and it still makes me sad. Granted, I realize and have admitted my emotions got the better of me a few times while posting here, but if you had read any of my posts you would know I sincerely wish her article had only been about Obama&#8217;s failings. As an Obama supporter I am always interested to read about things he is falling short on so I continue to be informed and can make informed decisions while voting.  However, most of her article was a pro torture rant and I will not sit by, even though I knew coming in I was losing. Fighting against fear based decisions is not an easy task, but it was worth a shot.</p>
<p>As to your final point, thank you. I do not believe in anonymous posting while debating a contentious issue with peers I have a connection to (this excludes any parents that did not wish to involve their children who are attending Hoban.)  I&#8217;m hoping to see more from the Visor in the future, and specifically from Nikki, which is more grounded in fact instead of fear.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 03:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are entitled to free speech but, you need to look at some facts before you get mad and write (wrecklessly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are entitled to free speech but, you need to look at some facts before you get mad and write (wrecklessly).</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher W. Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher W. Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 05:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Moffit you have lost this fight.  Please stop trying to win a battle that cannot be won. Your brash opinion and attacking a young lady for her impression on the lack of change that has not held up to Barack Obama&#039;s large campaign promises.   

James just let this article be and go comment on something good Hoban is doing or something exciting that happened in the halls of Hoban.  For example Jim Tressel came into Hoban and was as classy as could be.  I really hope he comes back and you can spend sometime around him and hopefully his positive attitude and classy act can rub off on you and take effect immediately.

I give you credit for one thing, it took some guts to put your name above the thoughts and opinions you had about this subject.
Sincerely,
Christopher William Brady</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Moffit you have lost this fight.  Please stop trying to win a battle that cannot be won. Your brash opinion and attacking a young lady for her impression on the lack of change that has not held up to Barack Obama&#8217;s large campaign promises.   </p>
<p>James just let this article be and go comment on something good Hoban is doing or something exciting that happened in the halls of Hoban.  For example Jim Tressel came into Hoban and was as classy as could be.  I really hope he comes back and you can spend sometime around him and hopefully his positive attitude and classy act can rub off on you and take effect immediately.</p>
<p>I give you credit for one thing, it took some guts to put your name above the thoughts and opinions you had about this subject.<br />
Sincerely,<br />
Christopher William Brady</p>
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